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WOW.

I remember when that Cut article first dropped. The conclusion I came to at the time was that they were both messy af 20 something year olds (LIKE WE ALL WERE AT ONE TIME) & we probably didn’t need a whole article on the relationship. I kept waiting to read something that was newsworthy. It never arrived. Natalie came off as deeply obsessed/jealous of her friend. It is alarming that she is still writing about Caroline but it seems that is the only thing that makes Natalie interesting. It’s all sad.

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I don’t know either of these people, but I read Natalie Beach’s book of essays and it is not at all about Caroline Calloway. There is the original essay from the Cut republished, and another one at the end about what happened when it published, that is actually pretty self-critical and kind toward Caroline. The rest of the essays — about soccer, her weird apartment, gardening, her job at a pencil shop, her marriage, death, abortion, etc — are better and more interesting.

I wish the best for Caroline (so does Natalie, according to Natalie) but she seems to have a long way to go on her addiction recovery journey.

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“Not at all about Caroline” but her opening and closing essay is about Caroline 🥴

The whole reason she was able to write that book was because of Caroline. They are both grimy but Natalie is extra dirty for using Caroline as a ledge to launch her writing career.

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It’s like Anna Delvey and Elizabeth Wurtzel had a love child.

But I love her dress.

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There you go. Anna Delvey is exactly who came to mind when I was reading it too. Why buy the book, what can it tell us that we don’t already know? Instead buy a lovely copy of a classic you have always wanted to read and not got around to.

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Excellent interview!

“I’ve always toyed with going to AA, but I’m wary of sharing my deepest, darkest secrets with a roomful of people. I’m always afraid someone is going to sell them. To The Cut. For $5,000. And I think that’s just a really specific and real trauma I have.” <-- this quote is so raw. ❤️‍🩹

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She's not sober. Sober people live in rigorous honesty and she isn't being honest with herself. She is full of resentments, animosity, and ego which is far from sober. She doesn't want to go to AA because she's afraid someone will call her out on her BS, not that someone will sell her secrets; hunny, you aren't that unique.

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Perfectly stated 👍🏼💯!

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Can’t wait to see both of them on The Real Housewives someday

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Unhappy addicts are all alike

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She’s full of shit! Yeah, I believe she is a scammer.

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I remember when her workshops went viral. It’s refreshing to hear her speak so openly and honestly.

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AA's will steal your wallet. NA's will stand around helping you look for it.

Sounds like you got scammed by a better shrew than you.

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AAA has saved many lives. Not perfect but the best thing out there right now. It’s free

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What is AAA? AA was much more perfect before God came under attack. Before the 42 billion dollar 'rehab' industry took off.

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CAROLINE CALLOWAY FOREVER AND ALWAYS. #teamscammer

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Hey Sarah Levy. Thanks for that article, what a fascinating journey out of a twisted mess of betrayal, addiction and shattered illusions. I’m buying both books.

Lawrence Mooney

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It seems the "scammer" has done remarkably well! Stay clean (i.e., amphetamine-free!)!

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Bellybutton gazing. Inconsequential fluff.

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She kinda fits in with a buyer beware situation. However,

she doesn’t even register on the skam meter (yes there is forever a new spelling for this concept) Why can’t you see?

https://open.substack.com/pub/sinatana/p/the-mask-of-all-skams?r=zickz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Stick around, I write about the ways out too❤️

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The fame, the glitz, all for what? Yet, in each generation, there seem to be the same old pitfalls and mistakes made by preceding generations. To these younger moguls, it is all about the All Mighty Dollar.

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